@JustinAngel did Clark ever visit with Pimpton again? Pimpton hinted at another visit in his tweet on his in home a couple weeks ago.

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I’ve never spoken to Brandon Barca and don’t know him, but greatly appreciated his videos during CJF and others’ tenures (which he did on his own time). We could use him back for those and I’d love to see him made head of athletics marketing!

DC Brian Newberry promoted to the HC position to replace Ken N.

Vanderbilt lands a commitment from Evan Herrmann. We said that this was one to watch.

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To TCU

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Dores up 14 to 9 after 1 quarter. Lipscomb is 5 and 5 and looks terrible.

Gonna start with a couple of notes this morning. Myself and @JustinAngel will reach out to the visitors from the weekend and try to get some reaction and post in this thread as well.

A couple of notes regarding Vandy targets to start...

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- Harris took an OV with Vanderbilt last weekend, the Commodores like him as a TE. However, we expect Harris to end up committed to Missouri, where he is currently taking an official visit to this weekend. Before anyone asks, this doesn't have anything to do with Pimpton or the confidence level that he sticks. That's a completely separate matter for Vandy to try and keep him in the class and fend off LSU and Texas. With Harris, it simply came down to Missouri being the P5 school that was in on him first.

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- Confidence should be higher with Smith, who will be finishing up his official with the Vanderbilt today. I've heard that Minnesota coaches didn't do an in-home visit with him last week coming off his OV with the Gophers last weekend. Not sure if Minnesota has another WR committed, but doesn't sound like he's being pursued by them anymore. So, this is shaping up to be a Michigan State/Vandy battle it appears.

The early signing period starts on Wednesday. I'm going to recap some things here.

- Vanderbilt got a commitment from Texas quarterback Brennan Storer. The dual-threat quarterback had been committed to Western Michigan. He officially visited Miami (OH) last week and Vanderbilt this past weekend. We caught with him about the commitment. We also caught up with his legendary coach about Brennan's skill set.

Brennan Storer talks Vanderbilt commitment

Coach Analysis: Brennan Storer

- Vanderbilt running back target Deago Benson told us this weekend that he intends to sign in February. When I asked Deago if he plans to sign early, Deago responded with 'No sir, I am not.' In addition to Vanderbilt, Kansas State and Georgia Tech are pursuing the Texas running back.

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- Harvard transfer corner Alex Washington had an official visit lined up for this past weekend, but that visit was cancelled by Vanderbilt. He has visited Boston College and intends to visit Virginia in January. We will check to see if the visit is rescheduled. From my conversation with Washington, I doubt that as a possibility.

- One guy to watch on Wednesday is 6-foot-6 defensive end Evan Herrmann. He recently decommitted from Wyoming, and he had only been committed for a little over a week. Vanderbilt has been looking at defensive end prospects in Taje McCoy, Jacob Cruz, and Ezra Odinjor. Vanderbilt also extended a late offer to DeeJay Holmes. Herrmann isn't a new prospect for the Commodores as he visited for a game this season. Herrmann has great speed and athleticism for a 6-foot-6 athlete, but he lacks mass . It may be nothing, but we think he's one to watch.

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- Vanderbilt's main focus has been keeping commitments Ka"Morreun Pimpton, Kenric Lanier, and Junior Sherrill in the fold. Texas and LSU are pursuing Pimpton. Lanier officially visited Minnesota this weekend. UAB and Trent Dilfer have been pursuing Junior Sherrill.

- Texas wide receiver Jaelen Smith was supposed to officially Vanderbilt over the weekend. We've reached out, and we've got no response. That's not a huge deal because he usually takes his time getting back. We were told that there were only three official visitors over the weekend with Brennan Storer being one. This isn't 100%, but they did not think Jaelen Smith was one of those three visiting. We are working to confirm that. We don't think Minnesota is as involved with Smith anymore. This is likely a Vanderbilt/Michigan State battle, but Vanderbilt may not have room with the lack of spots.

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- Vanderbilt hasn't given up on 4-star defensive back Isaac Smith. Clark Lea recently retweeted an Isaac Smith tweet that says that he loves Vanderbilt football. Most people expect LSU or Mississippi State to land Smith, but the Commodores haven't given up. He officially visited Vanderbilt in June.

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- As for signing day, we do believe there could be some surprises as always. They been keeping things close to the vest on West End heading into signing day. We think the main focus has been keeping their commitments in the fold for the most part. We also think that spots are getting tight, and we know that Vanderbilt would like to add some depth pieces through the portal.

This is not the Vanderbilt basketball team that I grew up loving. It seems like we’re at our breaking point, and I’m having issues finding positives.

This thread encompasses my thoughts on the program. Please feel free to share yours!

Glaring issues:
1. Stack does not love recruiting.
2. Stack does not listen to his assistants. They’re all yes men to him.
3. The recruits Vandy has brought in have not been up to par.
4. Substitution patters
5. Playing “veterans” over Freshmen
6. No fans show up
7. Stack blocks any fan that criticizes him on Twitter. Not a good look with where we at at as a program, or even in general. Also, do you not have anything better to do?
8. We are a defensive centered team, but we don’t play great defense.
9. No offensive creator.
10. Noah Shelby was my bet to help lift the scoring we’re missing this year without Scotty. He’s going through his freshmen year growing pains, but he has not flashed to me that he can contribute next year. Hoping Shelby is not a wash, but I’m leaning that direction.
11. It’s difficult for me to justify the amount of minutes Trey Thomas gets. I’ll give Trey this, he’s proved me wrong and shown up. I agree with giving Trey time with where Vandy is right now, but if he misses his first couple shots and is being a liability with the ball in his hands, you have to pull him. He doesn’t bring enough outside of his shooting to justify receivinng 33 minutes.

Positives:
1. Each player has a clear role. No one does too much, which is part of the issue on offense.
2. Dia and Dort show great potential.
3. New facilities?
4. Myles Stute & Liam Robbins
5. Tyrin Lawrence stepping up. He is almost forced to step up, but he’s done a decent job getting to the rim and plays good defense.

Outlook:
Stack has somewhat over performed each year based on preseason expectations due to the talent we have on the team. He took a program in a bad spot and brought some stability. He’s killed a lot of things though. Our once lively fan base is non-existent, the three point streak (I’ll never live this down), and many other things. No matter what happens the remainder of this year, it’s becoming more apparent that Stackhouse isn’t the guy long-term. Personally, I think he’d be a great addition to UNC as an assistant coach. I don’t think Stackhouse is a HC, but he’d probably only accept a HC role.

I miss sold out Memorial Gymnasium on a Saturday night with Kentucky in town. How do we get back there? I don’t think we get back there with Stackhouse. With the new facilities coming in, this off-season is the one to make a switch. Ride the momentum from the new facilities with a new coach, retain the current players, and begin rebuilding Vanderbilt basketball as a brand in Nashville.

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I caught up with Highland Park HC Randy Allen about Vanderbilt quarterback commit Brennan Storer. I thanked him at the end of the interview, and I told him that people get excited about the quarterback position. His immediate reply, "You should be excited about Brennan. He's going to be a great player." I thought I'd add that tidbit.

Hope you guys are enjoying the coverage.

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I wonder if these two decisions are linked in any way or if Ray couldn’t get into grad school and Rocko leaving maybe it was just the final straw for Norval. Idk I just got to thinking maybe one had an effect on the other or wonder if Ray knew CM was leaving.

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Any big surprises coming? Guesses on the silent commit? Do we have a chance at Isaac Smith? It looks like the Smyrna kid has fallen off our radar a bit. It seems like last year there was more action right now but we also lost more kids last year

SEC is going to be a disaster.

I'll probably be driving my family out to Denver and maybe listening online while I do, but Joey will have our coverage tonight.

Stackhouse and Stute presser, here:
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Vanderbilt reached out to us to set it up so we will give you details when we set a time.

Thoughts in no order:
1) Dayton has a massive, loud, energized fan base. We used to have that. Now we don't. Dayton is an 11k person school, Dayton is a smaller city than Nashville, in a worse conference than the SEC... What are they doing right that we're doing wrong? I don't know, but building a fan base is important, and yes, winning does it, but the Cubs didn't win for decades and they had a fan base. We're doing something wrong in terms of fan support for really all of our sports and I don't know what.

2) The team works hard, but there's no vocal leader. They're quiet. There's no trash talking. There's no vocal leadership. Stack is vocal and energized and whatnot, but the team? A little sleepy. Maybe Pippen took the team on his shoulders too much, but we just don't have a leader right now. The stadium was relatively empty, and the loudest cheers were the D Fense cheers from the NC State bench. From our bench? Crickets. Even when people were pulled out, there wasn't a lot of high fives and pats on the back.

3) The problem isn't Stack. Or maybe it is in that he put together the lineup. But he's the most vocal person out there (actually a few of the coaches are very vocal). I totally understand the T's a few games ago. The team is quiet and needs some fire... It isn't that they're not working hard--they are. But comparing the NC State bench to our bench was really stark.

4) The freshmen look good but their bodies are just so different than the seniors' bodies. It's too bad they didn't have a year of strength and conditioning before this year. It's not that they're out of shape or flabby. They aren't. But Jordan Wright or Manjon has muscle on top of muscle, and Dort and Shelby just don't.

5) Vandy played well enough to win today. They were a Trey Thomas 3 away from winning. Hard to draw too many conclusions from that. It feels like a lot of games are like that, but they didn't play poorly today.

Assuming there is no material improvement in performance by the end of the year (we’re in the ballpark of 12 wins) and assuming the buyout is not unreasonable, should we part ways after the season?

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When your best returning player yells at the Coach repeatedly in the very first game of the season, it's going to be a long year and very likely the last year for the coach.