Tough result, one they learned from
Missouri is really good on offense and defense and solid on special teams
Eli Drinkwitz has built a program that’a a league standard-bearer
Players responded the right way Sunday


PROBLEMS LAST WEEK
It wasn’t the physical work
Ir was focus and approach—guys being on time, disciplined, etc.
He can sense when guys are on the edge of their seats and when they hold back
When guys are late that’s an indicator that’s not where they need to be
Those things were address during the week
Post-game message was that when they’re undisciplined off the field, they’re undisciplined on it
They’re good enough to win every game they play but not good enough to win when they’re unprepared
They played with passion in the game but it wasn’t a clean game
It’s an opportunity to learn as a team

DID THE TEAM NEED THIS?
He’d rather learn that lesson from a win
The message wouldn’t have changed
They’re still learning and growing
Maybe they punched behind external expectations early and that becomes a distraction, although internally their expectations were always high
It’s the mentality and mindset that surrounds players
It takes discipline to cut through all that and be consistent in their approach, and that was what was off
But credit Georgia State, take no credit from them

THE LAST DRIVE, WHAT BROKE DOWN AND WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE
Went back to VT game, VT wanted one-on-one matchup which they learned before they took time out and they went to 4-man rush (which worked)
First snap—they should have broken the pass up, they abandoned their technique
Second—they’re in cover-2 but corner hugged the flat and WR rolled under
GSU QB out-performed them in that moment
They went to man for a bit
They wanted to generate pressure to create a negative play at the end and (I think referenced a leverage problem)
But everything starts with them
He’s got to coach and be responsible
A lot to learn from it all
When you know the play then sure, calls can change but felt like a 4-man rush was the right call

SYDNOR/WOOD
They’ll have full report tomorrow
Sydnor questionable for the game, feels good on progression
Wood likely won’t be available, has ankle injury.

GSU QB AND THE PLAYS HE MADE
Jokes, is it time to talk about penalties?
QB did a really good job of getting the ball out on time
First 2 plays, he saw the field well and worked through his progression though he felt they were somewhat collapsing the pocket
Able to diagnose before contact was made
Sometimes they get a hand up and affect things but felt they missed an opportunity last week there
He did feel like the 4- man rush was effective but QB out-played them in those moments
The sake early got them off-schedule and Punk’s penalty was a tough one
Thought the game was officiated well so no criticism there
Didn’t feel like the Patterson flag in the VT game was excessive
They have to toe the line well because they have to be aggresive
The CJ Taylor play, from the dawn of time there is contact on that play
Officials did a great job explaining what they saw and why
We can’t take all the risk out of

IS THE GAME OVER-LEGISLATED ON DEFENSE?
IT was a different game when he played
He wants his kids to participate in a safer game and theyr’re evolving in a good way
But in any contact sport there is risk
They’re taking on more penalties at Vanderbilt than he’s ever taken on
He’d have to look at other games,
The egregious fouls are easy to see, they’re on the right track to eliminate those
The hit on Pavia was egregious and deserved a penalty
But the ones in the margins, the benefit of the doubt isn’t given or is given to the offensive player
They have to shift to the reality of the way the game is
They don’t hit the QB in practice and take other measures not to compress the pocket to be careful

GOING INTO SEC PLAY, YOUR THOUGHTS
They’re excited to play a good SEC team
That’s why turning the page is important
It still comes down to execution

ON MISSOURI OFFENSE
They’re the same guys they played there in 2022, there’s something to be said for that
He credits Drinkwitz for how he’s handled this era
With Burden, Cook, etc., they’re seeing them the third time
It’s a good outfit
They motion and design you to find spaces
They play a game built around stretch running game and short completions that allow playmakers to make plays in space
They go up and over the top as good as anybody
They have to suffocate the perimeter because they make explosive plays that way

CJ TAYLOR
They’re asked for a review but since it was a second-half infraction he’s done the first half

STOWERS INJURY
Working towards being available
Didn’t practice today
Has dealt with that in the past
He’ll be available and ready to roll Saturday, they hope
Kam Johnson will need to step up
They hope to get Cole Spence back also

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I’d put Koby Taylor’s crazy ass on him and say “here’s your chance to make $15 million”.

That’s the only chance of slowing that dude down.

A couple of Nashville area kids on the list in Omarii Sanders of FRA and Kesean Bowman at Brentwood Academy

Two lowlights from Saturday that I missed:
1. Tennessee using an onside kick leading 30-0 with 3 minutes to go in the 1st quarter.
2. Post-game: CU QB Sanders refusing to shake the hand of CSU QB. Instead pointed a finger in his face while apparently trash-talking. CSU QB responded exactly as he should have--simply turned and walked away.

CCL mentioned unfavorable off-field issues that occurred last week in his post game interview and it was mentioned somewhere else. I have read most of the VS chatter but may have missed a previous discussion of this. Does not sound like any kind of legal issue.

Would guess there was some problem between several players. A loss of cohesion/culture/effort. The implication was that attitudes could have been much better last week. But any of that would be an on-field issue.

I had actually fallen in with the rest of you. I thought that the Kill, Beck and Pavia train had fixed this team. And, they fixed half of it. The offense did more than enough to win this game.

But, it somehow made me forget that our HC was still our HC, and unfortunately, also our DC. That defense is pathetic. And, I knew it. I knew that we only had two SEC calibre players on defense (CJ Taylor and Patterson), and one of them changed positions. I knew that Lea tried to fix our secondary with scrub corners from lower level football. I knew it before the season started. I KNEW BETTER, damnit.

But, I too got caught up in the hype. Stupid me was actually thinking about going to the Mizzou or Kentucky road games. Then Lea and Vanderbilt Lucy'ed me once again. What an idiot I am, for falling for it another time.

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Anyone left?

This whole time i thought we lost to Georgia Southern who always had a decent football program for a small school.

honest question…what is georgia state and how did we lose to them?

It might be time to take a step back and take a deep breath. I really don't want to come across as preaching to anyone, but I am concerned about the use of the word "hate" in reference to Coach Lea. When you say you hate someone, it becomes a very personal attack on that person. I don't personally like or dislike Coach Lea. I have never met him. My feelings about Coach Lea as a coach most likely would not have anything to do about my feelings about Coach Lea as a person. No one has to look very far so see examples of hatred in this country and the awful effects that hatred can have. So maybe we can tone it down a little and direct our feelings and comments of likes and dislikes to how well or how poorly we think someone is doing their job rather than making our comments a personal attack.

It’s pretty clear that we have the smallest P4 fanbase in college football but I really felt like we were building things back up. I don’t want to be overly hyperbolic but my fear is that all of those fans who vowed to get to a game or two the rest of the year will now bypass.

What does it do to fans like me who just came back for the first time in a while?

If you can’t beat Ga State, can you beat anybody else on your schedule other than Ball St?

My prediction is that however bad the attendance was going to be for Bama, Texas, UTjr and Carl’s Jr, it’s going to be worse now.

I still cannot believe we lost that game. I remember before the season saying our biggest variable was going to be Clark Lea at DC and @Billy Derrick and @DoreFan6 jumped on me saying that was the least of our worries. Unfortunately, my fear was spot on, Clark Lea is just an average, at best, Defensive Coordinator. He was completely out-schemed last night and was very creative in how he was able to lose that game as his own DC.

I think the Clark Lea destroyed any and all of the momentum he had built and the only way to regain it is to beat Mizzou or Bama or both.

I’m as mad and disappointed as everyone else was on Saturday night. This team needs to stop feeling sorry for itself and turn the page. Former LSU coach Skip Bertman used to have a miniature toilet in the dugout. After a bad loss, he would flush it. Following that metaphor, that’s exactly what this Vanderbilt football team needs to do.

This team has a tall task ahead in conference play. That said, Missouri is a good team, but struggled with Boston College for much of that game on Saturday. I think Vandy has better skill players on offense than Boston College does and I think Pavia is a better decision maker than Castellanos. CCL is not in a position to pull punches. This is not a time to throw checkdowns and punt. I want to see Kill and Beck let the offense loose on Saturday and for CCL to put his defensive players in a position to succeed. Missouri will be a great challenge on Saturday and will teach us a lot about where this team really is

Admittedly I have not been through all the threads, but wondering if this has been discussed. It appeared that Pavia was not healthy and his running ability was nowhere near what it was the first two games. Does anyone else see that Lea’s decision to leave Pavia in up 30 something to nothing against Alcorn deep into the third quarter ended up helping sabotage last night’s game? Everyone in our section last Saturday was holding their breaths and pleading for Clark to take Pavia out, but he continued to run the ball and take hit after hit until it appeared that he slightly injured his knee on a run. Then reports that he was gimpy in the pregame last night. It just appeared obvious that he wasn’t able to run the ball the same last night and his legs were a big part of our offensive effectiveness the first two games. Thoughts?

Will be Vanderbilt’s Purdue.

It ain’t over till the games are played.

He sat DL that could have played and VU needed them. Isn’t that underestimating your competition just like the players did?

Vanderbilt falls at Georgia State and only has itself to blame: https://vanderbilt.rivals.com/news/no-excuses-georgia-state-36-vanderbilt-32

* Robbie posted some stats on the 24/7 board *

This one stood out

Kolbey Taylor allowed 7 receptions on 9 targets for 99 yards and 2 TD

Rough film session

Please hear me out. VU fan for 40 years and always chastised others on this board who made this same statement in the past years but I am really feeling this way this morning. I don’t even want VU to go to another lower league because I won’t watch. Just DIP THE CHIP AND END IT. Now that players are paid, I feel we have the right to get on thier ass and call them out. The whole OL should have thier NIL pay docked for this week as well as CCL!! Pavia should get a bonus for just keeping us in the game at the end!